text from youtube "Despite huge Iraqi, regional and international opposition, Masoud Barzani, the President of the KRI, went ahead with an independence referendum on 25 September 2017. The results showed an overwhelming endorsement of a split from Baghdad. However, the referendum did not deliver the enhanced bargaining power that the President was hoping for in negotiating independence. In the second workshop organised on 16 March 2018, participants examined the major dynamics that will shape Iraqi–Kurdish politics going forward.
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Showing posts with label referendum. Show all posts
Showing posts with label referendum. Show all posts
Thursday, 28 June 2018
5min @LSENews clip on #Iraq and its Regions: The Future of the #Kurdistan Region of Iraq after the Referendum
text from youtube "Despite huge Iraqi, regional and international opposition, Masoud Barzani, the President of the KRI, went ahead with an independence referendum on 25 September 2017. The results showed an overwhelming endorsement of a split from Baghdad. However, the referendum did not deliver the enhanced bargaining power that the President was hoping for in negotiating independence. In the second workshop organised on 16 March 2018, participants examined the major dynamics that will shape Iraqi–Kurdish politics going forward.
Monday, 2 May 2016
#brexit or #ues2eu ? - "We believe in our own democracy. They see #Europe as the symbol of a liberal democracy"
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In that programme Sue MacGregor is joined Lord Lamont a former chancellor, Ken Clarke who replaced him, the Government Whip responsible for Europe, David Davies, and Conservative backbencher Sir Bill Cash, a prominent Euro-rebel, as well as John Major's Private Secretary for Foreign Affairs and later the Official Historian on Britain's Relationship with Europe, Sir Stephen Wall.
At the 39:24 time mark in the programme David Davies says the following on the reasons why the UK is different from many of the other countries in the EU.....
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- the Germans and Italians came into the original Iron & Steel community from a dictatorship,
- the Spainards came in from Franco,
- the Portuguese came in from Katana,
- the Greeks came in from the Colonels,
- Eastern Europe came in from under the jackboot of Soviet domination,
- We came in after 150 years of liberal democracy that worked quite well.
So our attitude to Europe is not the same as theirs.
We believe in our own democracy.
They see Europe as the symbol of a liberal democracy.
Its a very different viewpoint."
Sunday, 24 April 2016
Journalism & the #Brexit debate #Polis2016 - the focus on the economy, the fact free ghetto of social media, the UK media's power - and why weren't 16 years olds allowed to vote?
Last Thursday I attended the #Polis2016 conference at LSE, London, UK. I've already done two earlier posts on parts of the conference:
- one on Jon Snow's opening address - at which he gave some priceless advice (given the venue) "if you want to be a journalist don't do a journalism degree"
- and another on a conference session about Reporting Refugees - from which I was reminded that "Good #storytelling isn't limited to simplified representations of reality"

This post is about some of the ideas that came out from the session on the UK referendum on Yes or No to EU membership
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1) Its the economy stupid - part of the panel discussion was on how the main thrust of the In campaign has focused on the economy and the bad effects on it if the UK exits the EU. At the same time it was mentioned that the Out campaign had been forced to battle on this economic ground as the "self governance" argument is seen as having little traction with voters.
One of the journalists from abroad on the panel commented on how much of UK political debate seemed to focus on economic matters. Others on the panel pointed out the effect the economic arguments had in helping the Stay campaign in the Scottish referendum - and indeed in the Conservatives gaining sole power at the last general election.
A final thread of this part of the discussion was on the stories that hadn't been reported:
- the UK's impact on the EU (e.g. on competition policy/free trade);
- the role of the EU in helping to maintain peace in Europe;
- how the EU institutions actually work (because its a hard story to make interesting?).
This part of the debate led me to make a mental note ...
2) Fact checking and the echo chamber of social media - One of the panel described "the Facebook echo chamber where people hear views they agree with echoed back to them"
This theme of confirmation bias came up in this and at least one other of the conference sessions.
#Polis2016 panel on reporting on #Brexit @AnneApplebaum said social media can be a "fact free ghetto" where people only hear what they want
- one on Jon Snow's opening address - at which he gave some priceless advice (given the venue) "if you want to be a journalist don't do a journalism degree"
- and another on a conference session about Reporting Refugees - from which I was reminded that "Good #storytelling isn't limited to simplified representations of reality"
Another great scribes on 'Reporting Refugees' from #Polis2016

This post is about some of the ideas that came out from the session on the UK referendum on Yes or No to EU membership
X
1) Its the economy stupid - part of the panel discussion was on how the main thrust of the In campaign has focused on the economy and the bad effects on it if the UK exits the EU. At the same time it was mentioned that the Out campaign had been forced to battle on this economic ground as the "self governance" argument is seen as having little traction with voters.
One of the journalists from abroad on the panel commented on how much of UK political debate seemed to focus on economic matters. Others on the panel pointed out the effect the economic arguments had in helping the Stay campaign in the Scottish referendum - and indeed in the Conservatives gaining sole power at the last general election.
A final thread of this part of the discussion was on the stories that hadn't been reported:
- the UK's impact on the EU (e.g. on competition policy/free trade);
- the role of the EU in helping to maintain peace in Europe;
- how the EU institutions actually work (because its a hard story to make interesting?).
This part of the debate led me to make a mental note ...
2) Fact checking and the echo chamber of social media - One of the panel described "the Facebook echo chamber where people hear views they agree with echoed back to them"
This theme of confirmation bias came up in this and at least one other of the conference sessions.
#Polis2016 panel on reporting on #Brexit @AnneApplebaum said social media can be a "fact free ghetto" where people only hear what they want
What I didn't hear pointed out is how the algorithms used in social media magnify this confirmation bias. For more on this see this post on facebook ... the takeaway from which is - social media amplifies confirmation bias because its algorithms are designed to present you with content you'll be interested in based on what you - and your friends - have already viewed, shared or liked.
This confirmation bias even seems remarkably robust against facts
This confirmation bias even seems remarkably robust against facts
.@anneapplebaum runs #brexit fact checking project but judgement already being clouded by emotion, & often incorrect stats #Polis2016
3) The power of the UK media in framing debates - in comments about the Scottish referendum some on the panel said it showed how the power of mainstream media in the UK is weakening (but maybe this was also the anti-Westminster bubble effect in Scotland?)
There was also a debate on the uniqueness of the BBC in the UK media landscape - the equivalent of which doesn't exist in many other European countries. The role of the BBC in occupying an unbiased position of presenting "on the one hand and on the other arguments" was seen to be fairly unique. But it also has some downsides ...
3) The power of the UK media in framing debates - in comments about the Scottish referendum some on the panel said it showed how the power of mainstream media in the UK is weakening (but maybe this was also the anti-Westminster bubble effect in Scotland?)
However the French and German journalists on the panel both commented on how much more powerful than their press the UK press was in setting the agenda for debate. (An example given was how the European press perspective on the deal Cameron got was that he did very well. Yet most of the UK press promoted a "he didn't do well" storyline).
There was also a debate on the uniqueness of the BBC in the UK media landscape - the equivalent of which doesn't exist in many other European countries. The role of the BBC in occupying an unbiased position of presenting "on the one hand and on the other arguments" was seen to be fairly unique. But it also has some downsides ...
@anneapplebaum tells #Polis2016 conf. BBC et al efforts 2b very fair sometimes make it hard for journos to dismiss some claims as wrong
And I heard one complaint (from the audience maybe) about "Those idiots on the Today programme setting the agenda"
4) Why didn't Cameron lower the voting age to 16 for the referendum? Was an interesting question asked but not answered. Particularly as there would be a higher likelihood of young people voting to stay in the EU - and not forgetting the effect such a move had in energising the debate in the Scottish referendum.
A side point made was that when 16 year olds are given the vote then schools can help educate them on how to vote (so what you do in a polling booth or with a postal vote) and help them actually register to vote. This is help not available to 18 year olds (or older) in their 1st voting opportunity. And maybe it is one of the factors that influence why so many younger voters don't vote - embarrassment about not knowing how to.
And I heard one complaint (from the audience maybe) about "Those idiots on the Today programme setting the agenda"
4) Why didn't Cameron lower the voting age to 16 for the referendum? Was an interesting question asked but not answered. Particularly as there would be a higher likelihood of young people voting to stay in the EU - and not forgetting the effect such a move had in energising the debate in the Scottish referendum.
A side point made was that when 16 year olds are given the vote then schools can help educate them on how to vote (so what you do in a polling booth or with a postal vote) and help them actually register to vote. This is help not available to 18 year olds (or older) in their 1st voting opportunity. And maybe it is one of the factors that influence why so many younger voters don't vote - embarrassment about not knowing how to.
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